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#Bestof: Facilitating once in a lifetime workshop experiences with Steve Sims (Episode 165)

Today’s guest runs the coolest workshops I’ve ever heard of, no joke. And how does he embed learning at the end of these workshops? By making people practice the skills they’ve learn, when they rock up to Sir Elton John’s Oscars after-party.

Today’s guest runs the coolest workshops I’ve ever heard of, no joke. And how does he embed learning at the end of these workshops? By making people practice the skills they’ve learn, when they rock up to Sir Elton John’s Oscars after-party.

Not too many people can say that to their clients...But today’s guest, is a one of a kind guy.
His name is Steve Sims. Steve is the man who created Bluefish, a company that makes once-in-a-lifetime events happen for the rich and famous reveals to the rest of us his trade secrets for making things happen.  With his help and expertise, his clients’ fantasies and wildest dreams come true.

Steve is the author of the Bluefishing: The Art of Making Things Happen, and he has a podcast of the same name. Steve has spoken at Harvard and the Pentagon, twice.  Getting married by the Pope in the Vatican, being serenaded by Elton John, and connecting with powerful business moguls like Elon Musk are just a few of the many projects he has worked on.  

I really wanted Steve on the show to talk about a few key things - the assumptions we have about asking for things, how confidence; and your approach can take you far and (literally) open doors.  We also talk about the perfectionism beast.

If you’d like to join the conversation when the show is over, join The Flipchart, a free community on Facebook for First Time Facilitator listeners.

About our guest: Steve Sims

Steve Sims Steve is the visionary founder of Bluefish: the world’s first luxury concierge that delivers the highest level of personalized travel, transportation, and cutting-edge entertainment services to corporate executives, celebrities, professional athletes, and other discerning individuals interested in living life to its fullest.

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Quotes of the show:

“I'm a great believer in keeping liability low.”
“The greatest growth comes from the greatest accidents.”
“It’s incredible to have people just be able to realize the rich people are poor people with a lot of money; things don't change, just that bank account.”
“I'm a great believer that perfection is a blue unicorn with three testicles; it doesn't exist.”
“I don't believe speakers should give speeches. I think speakers should have conversations with thousands of people or hundreds of people.”

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Episode 74: Pivoting into public speaking with Jenny Blake

I first heard about Jenny Blake in early 2017 when I was waiting for a train to go to my corporate job. She was a guest on Pat Flynn’s Smart Passive Income podcast. I remember it was a dark overcast day, like Lemony Snicket type weather, it was probably raining and I heard Jenny’s voice and message through my podcast app and it was like a ray of sunshine.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. I'm so excited to share my interview with the incredible @jenny_blake on this week's First Time Facilitator podcast! #facilitation The post Pivoting into public speaking with Jenny Blake (Episode 74) appeared first on First Time Facilitator.

I’m back with an interview this week! And it’s an interview with my HERO, Jenny Blake.

I first heard about Jenny Blake in early 2017 when I was waiting for a train to go to my corporate job.

She was a guest on Pat Flynn’s Smart Passive Income podcast. I remember it was a dark overcast day, like Lemony Snicket type weather, it was probably raining and I heard Jenny’s voice and message through my podcast app and it was like a ray of sunshine.

She spoke about career pivots, and how when you get dissatisfied in a job, it’s because you’re successful, you’ve overgrown the role - not because there’s something wrong with you. I bought her book, Pivot, straight away and devoured it 2-3 times - in her book she outlines practical ways you can navigate her quesiton of ‘whats next?’

Since then I’ve devoured all of her Pivot podcasts and courses, I signed up to her private Facebook group, Momentum to access all of her online courses and she has been a MASSIVE source of inspiration for me the last couple of years - I love the way she operates, and she’s also the most generous, kindest, person I know.

And what’s cool is that I can say know now as I got to hang out with her on my recent trip to NYC! We hung out with her momentum community on this awesome rooftop bar overlooking the Empire State Building, and then she invited me over to her amaaazing apartment for lunch on Sunday.

About today's guest: Jenny Blake

Jenny is an author, career and business strategist and international speaker who helps people move beyond burnout to build sustainable, dynamic careers they love. She is the author of Pivot: The Only Move That Matters is Your Next One, which won an award for Axiom Best Business Book in the careers category.

After two years at a technology start-up followed by five years at Google in Training and Career Development, Jenny moved to New York City in 2011 where she has been running her own consulting business in the years since. Jenny combines her love of technology with her superpower of simplifying complexity to help clients pivot their career or business. Her motto: if change is the only constant, let's get better at it. 

Dogs, dancing, gadgets, writing, traveling, and long meals with friends all make her pretty happy too. 

On the conversation today we explore:

  • Some interesting advice she was given when she was getting nerves before stepping up to deliver presentations;

  • Why she believes product training is a good entry point into facilitation

  • Jenny shares a quote that helped her fight the nerves when she was on stage in front of thousands of people

  • How being an author brings about ‘serendipity popcorn’ in terms of the variety and timing of speaking engagements

  • How she engages with global audiences over webinars

  • And of course, we couldn’t leave the conversation without Jenny sharing her famous Pivot framework

Let us know your thoughts on the conversation with Jenny Blake!

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Episode 55: Facilitating once in a lifetime workshop experiences with Steve Sims

Today’s guest runs the coolest workshops I’ve ever heard of, no joke. And how does he embed learning at the end of these workshops? By making people practice the skills they’ve learn, when they rock up to Sir Elton John’s Oscars after-party.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. Today's guest runs the coolest workshops I've ever heard of, no joke. And how does he embed learning at the end of these workshops? By making people practice the skills they've learn, when they rock up to Sir Elton John's Oscars after-party.Not too many people can say that to their clients...But today's guest, is a [...]

Today’s guest runs the coolest workshops I’ve ever heard of, no joke. And how does he embed learning at the end of these workshops? By making people practice the skills they’ve learn, when they rock up to Sir Elton John’s Oscars after-party.

Not too many people can say that to their clients...But today’s guest, is a one of a kind guy.
His name is Steve Sims. Steve is the man who created Bluefish, a company that makes once-in-a-lifetime events happen for the rich and famous reveals to the rest of us his trade secrets for making things happen.  With his help and expertise, his clients’ fantasies and wildest dreams come true.

Steve is the author of the Bluefishing: The Art of Making Things Happen, and he has a podcast of the same name. Steve has spoken at Harvard and the Pentagon, twice.  Getting married by the Pope in the Vatican, being serenaded by Elton John, and connecting with powerful business moguls like Elon Musk are just a few of the many projects he has worked on.  

I really wanted Steve on the show to talk about a few key things - the assumptions we have about asking for things, how confidence; and your approach can take you far and (literally) open doors.  We also talk about the perfectionism beast.

If you’d like to join the conversation when the show is over, join The Flipchart, a free community on Facebook for First Time Facilitator listeners.

About our guest: Steve Sims

Steve Sims Steve is the visionary founder of Bluefish: the world’s first luxury concierge that delivers the highest level of personalized travel, transportation, and cutting-edge entertainment services to corporate executives, celebrities, professional athletes, and other discerning individuals interested in living life to its fullest.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Like this show?

Quotes of the show:

“I'm a great believer in keeping liability low.”
“The greatest growth comes from the greatest accidents.”
“It’s incredible to have people just be able to realize the rich people are poor people with a lot of money; things don't change, just that bank account.”
“I'm a great believer that perfection is a blue unicorn with three testicles; it doesn't exist.”
“I don't believe speakers should give speeches. I think speakers should have conversations with thousands of people or hundreds of people.”

Episode transcript

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Episode 45: One question you need to ask before you take the stage with Julian Treasure

In today’s episode, I talk to Julian Treasure. Julian is a sought-after and top-rated international sound and communication expert. He is a gripping speaker with 5 TED talks online which have been viewed around 40 million times. Julian travels the world training people to listen better and create healthier sound. His vision is to transform the world by inspiring people to listen consciously and speak powerfully.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In today's episode, I talk to Julian Treasure. Julian is a sought-after and top-rated international sound and communication expert. He is a gripping speaker with 5 TED talks online which have been viewed around 40 million times.

In today’s episode, I talk to Julian Treasure. Julian is a sought-after and top-rated international sound and communication expert. He is a gripping speaker with 5 TED talks online which have been viewed around 40 million times. Julian travels the world training people to listen better and create healthier sound. His vision is to transform the world by inspiring people to listen consciously and speak powerfully. 

Julian’s speech ‘How to speak so people want to listen’ is my favourite TED speech. It’s also in the top-10 of most watched TED speeches of all time, with over 31 million views, that’s insane. I found his speech when I was running a presentation skills workshop for a local shire in Western Australia about 5 years ago, and ever since then, I’ve incorporated his speech into other workshops I’ve delivered on public speaking and being an effective communicator. Even in Mongolia a couple weeks ago, I used the vocal warm-up that Julian uses in his speech, as the icebreaker on the second day of the workshop!

However, when I was doing more research on Julian’s work, I also realised the emphasis that he puts on listening. Not hearing, but listening. We spend a good chunk of this conversation discussing how to do that effectively.

He believes that listening is the doorway to understanding and powerful speaking liberates us to make a difference and be known for who we are.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • The one key question you need to ask yourself before taking a stage, or facilitating a workshop

  • The significance of Conscious Listening

  • How stance and posture affects your voice when delivering a speech

  • Tips and tricks on breathing and voice exercises

  • Aspects of voice: pace, pitch, timbre & prosody

  • Strategies on how to control the pace of your voice

About our guest

Julian Treasure is an expert on sound who uses his fascinating insights to advise businesses how to optimise their environments for sound. He is author of the books How to be Heard and Sound Business. He is also the founder of The Sound Agency. The audio-branding company asks and answers the question “How does your brand sound?” The Sound Agency work with some of the world’s biggest brands to improve their sound.

Julian Treasure’s five TED talks have been watched more than 40 million times. His latest, How to speak so that people want to listen, is in the top 10 TED talks of all time. Julian is regularly featured in the world’s media, including TIME Magazine, The Times, The Economist and the BBC.

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Quotes of the show:

  • “You can't be a good speaker if you don't learn first to be a good listener.”

  • “My definition of listening is making meaning from sound and that colours your whole perception of existence.”

  • “The better we make our listening; the more we understand other people and the more powerfully we can speak to them.”

  • “Consciousness is the key to everything. Becoming conscious of what you're doing, how you're standing, the gestures you're using, the pace at which you're speaking.”

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Episode 42: Edutainment: How to combine knowledge, wit and interaction in your presentations with Dave Jackson

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In this episode, I chat to 2018 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee, Dave Jackson. He's been podcasting since April 2005, and has been the host of nearly a dozen different podcasts over the last decade.

In this episode, I chat to 2018 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee, Dave Jackson.  He’s been podcasting since April 2005, and has been the host of nearly a dozen different podcasts over the last decade.Most people chat to Dave about creating or improving their podcast but I wanted to focus on the fact that he’s been a technical trainer for over 20 years. I also like how he says in his bio that this means that he not only understands technology, but he can explain it in a plain English “geek-speak free” environment.We explore why it’s important to get out of your comfort zone, how Dave has brought his experience playing on bands on stages into the way he presents, what he does to make his presentations more engaging, how he handles his nerves before he presents, and why he is so damn funny.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • How having water-cooler type conversations lead him down a new career path

  • Why it’s important to attend conferences and meet your target market

  • How he mixes education and entertainment to help make learning stick

  • How he prepares to speak at conferences

  • Why it’s important to challenge yourself to get out of your comfort zone

  • Why it’s important to tailor your content and use analogies that fit your audience

About our guest: Dave Jackson

Dave is not only an award-winning podcaster, but he’s a podcasting consultant, teacher, and the founder of the School of Podcasting. A corporate trainer for more than 20+ years, Dave has a Bachelor's Degree in Education and was one of the early early early adopters of podcasting. Starting back in the primordial mist of 2005, Dave began the School of Podcasting, a podcast to teach other people how to podcast.Dave’s show has been described by many as the most entertaining and unique of all the “Podcast About Podcasting” offerings out there. Dave is a master at “edutainment” and has been using analogies to quickly help people understand the nuances of podcasting for over a decade. He has that rare ability to explain complicated concepts and processes in an easy to comprehend way.

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Episode 28: Facilitation is all about the tempo with Joshua John

In today’s episode, you’re going to hear from a good mate of mine, Joshua John. Josh has been living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia and has been working as a Language, Literacy and Numeracy trainer at North Regional TAFE. It’s a pretty challenging gig for trainers in the region. It’s normal for trainer to drive hundreds, if not thousands of kilometres in a week to deliver training to students at remote communities.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In today's episode, you're going to hear from a good mate of mine, Joshua John. Josh has been living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia and has been working as a Language, Literacy and Numeracy trainer at North Regional TAFE.

In today’s episode, you’re going to hear from a good mate of mine, Joshua John. Josh has been living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia and has been working as a Language, Literacy and Numeracy trainer at North Regional TAFE. It’s a pretty challenging gig for trainers in the region. It’s normal for trainer to drive hundreds, if not thousands of kilometres in a week to deliver training to students at remote communities.

The reason I asked him on the show, was to talk about these challenges, even down to the detail of what he packs on the road… but also talk about his side hustle in the world of MC’ing too.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • How to keep participants moving in a workshop (literally!)

  • How he responded when his mind went blank at the national stand-up comedy festival

  • How he prepares for his MC work

  • His take on using humour in your presentations

  • Josh's packing list when he trains people remotely

About our guest

Joshua John is an Access (Literacy, Language and Numeracy) lecturer based in Broome, Western Australia.

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Quotes of the show:

  • People try to stick in so much content and it's too much. It's like a tsunami of information. It overwhelms people.

  • One of the most important things across every industry is that ability to communicate.

  • What that individual will see is, every other person in the class has spoken and no one has laughed. When it gets to their turn, they're able to say something - and it's more part of that desire to be part of the group. No individual is going to go against that and not speak. They're engaged, and then from there, the classroom environment is working well.

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Episode 27: Being comfortable (with feeling uncomfortable) with Leanne Hughes

Usually on the show I interview amazing facilitators, speakers and leaders but I’m going solo for today’s episode. This is the third solo episode I’ve recorded and these ones are usually spurred on by questions I receive from listeners. The question this week was from a colleague and it was this, “Leanne, how did you get the confidence to speak in front of large groups?”There's a bit to unpack in that question. Its different for everyone. Interestingly, this question is about confidence; not about developing the skill.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. Usually on the show I interview amazing facilitators, speakers and leaders but I'm going solo for today's episode. This is the third solo episode I've recorded and these ones are usually spurred on by questions I receive from listeners.

Usually on the show I interview amazing facilitators, speakers and leaders but I’m going solo for today’s episode. This is the third solo episode I’ve recorded and these ones are usually spurred on by questions I receive from listeners.  The question this week was from a colleague and it was this, “Leanne, how did you get the confidence to speak in front of large groups?”There's a bit to unpack in that question. Its different for everyone.  Interestingly, this question is about confidence; not about developing the skill.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • The real opportunities I had that lead me to feel more confident speaking in front of large groups.

  • How I compare training for a marathon with becoming a better public speaker

  • How I found opportunities within roles I held to practise speaking in public more often

  • Why time on your feet matters (and how you find those opportunities)

  • My driver for doing things differently in front of an audience

  • The joys of being a wedding MC

About our guest

Leanne Hughes is the host of the First Time Facilitator podcast and is based in Brisbane, Australia. She works in the field of Organisational Development. She loves to shake up expectations and create unpredictable experiences and brings over 12 years’ of experience across a variety of industries including mining, tourism, and vocational education and training and believes anyone can develop the skills to deliver engaging group workshops.

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Being comfortable (with feeling uncomfortable): My public speaking journey

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This is a transcript of Episode 27 of the First Time Facilitator podcast.Usually on the show I interview amazing facilitators, speakers and leaders but I’m going solo for today’s episode. This is the third solo episode I’ve recorded and these ones are usually spurred on by questions I receive from listenersSo the question this week was from a colleague and it was this:

“Leanne, how did you get the confidence to speak in front of large groups?”

There's a bit to unpack in that question. Its different for everyone.  Interestingly, this question is about confidence; not about developing the skill.I'm going to share the real opportunity I had that lead me to feel more confident and now accept opportunities where I do speak in public. In saying that, I’m still human and continue to question my ability before accepting these opportunities. However, after talking to fellow facilitators and speakers on the podcast, that appears to be a fairly normal response. I guess the good thing about type of response, is that it keeps you on your toes and not operating in autopilot.The definition of large group is also different from everyone. I think anything above 30 is pretty large. From my experience, anything above 30 or 40 requires a microphone, probably a stage and some bright lights. I can give you a short and long answer for this but I took this question as a really good opportunity to reflect on the things that I actually did to position myself to accept large group speaking opportunities, with perceived confidence.

It was October 2014

I was living in a small, coastal regional town in Western Australia called Broome. I talk about Broome in a lot of episodes as I have find memories there. Imagine a place where in winter, you can swim at the beach, in summer it’s too hot to do anything. The population is very small, about 15,000 people. The closest town is a 2 hour drive away, the nearest capital city is Jakarta, Indonesia. You don’t really do things there. Your weekend plans are dictated by the tide times, everyone drives a 4wd and you spend most of your time in air conditioning, down the beach camping and fishing, with a cold beer in hand.Lazy days in BroomeIt was wonderful! However living there for 3.5 years you can become pretty complacent, and outside of work, I wasn’t really achieving a lot. I wanted to create some more discipline for myself.I thought I would set myself a ridiculous goal, something that would get me out of bed nice and early… literally... and that was to run a marathon. It was a big goal because growing up, I hated running. I loved playing netball, but I loathed the fitness element - I associated running with everything negative in life. However, living in this coastal town, there were no hills, no traffic, and because nothing really happened in town, I had time up my sleeve. This gave me the ultimate entry point to start. So I signed up for the GC Marathon.Not having a clue on how to do this, I enlisted a coach Pat Carroll. He’d won a few Gold Coast marathons.  My goal was to simply finish under 5 hours.On a side note, this is a speech I did at Pecha Kucha, Broome about the whole marathon training experience.I’m sharing this story as there were a couple of words of phrases he said, that I think can generally be applied to this question about gaining confidence in speaking in front of large groups.I'm going to drop one of those phrases now and then again later on, in the episode. Pat said that a lot of people approach runs and start cross-training, ie. Do weights, swim or cycle. But HE SAID - and gosh, it sounds so simple - and you’re probably going to think I’m crazy to highlight this as some kind of watershed moment - but it was for me...

He said, "The best way to train for a marathon is, to simply, run".

Running at the Gold Coast marathonYou need to start banking those kilometres on your legs. You don’t need to do pilates, swim, hike, or play touch footy. Just run.  Bank those kilometres on your legs. I loved that concept of banking kilometres. And I banked thousands of kilometre on my legs in those nine months.My most recent podcast guest, Neen James agrees with this.  If you listened to my conversation with Neen in Episode 26, you would have heard her mention the phrase ‘Time on your feet.’So my short answer to that question, ‘How did I get the confidence to speak in public?’, well it was really about banking that time on my feet as a speaker.That leads onto the next question:

How do I find time in my feet, so when a marathon-like speaking opportunity comes along, I’m prepared?

If you go through school and Uni, that’s a good start and there are opportunities there, like high school English class presentations or the dreaded group assignment preso at University.I’ve also always loved seeing others kill it on stage. I have always been fascinated by the power of strong delivery, and what brilliant presentation looks like. I guess the difference I brought, was to continually to ask myself, "What can I do that is different? Who is in the audience, what do they want, what is the hook?”When I really think about why I care so much about making sure my message hits… it probably comes back to my philosophy about how life is too short.In Episode 16, I spoke with Adam Mustoe about the Gallup Strengths Finder 2 and my second highest strength theme is Maximiser. The Maximiser theme is really around ‘Do you want fries with that?’ and taking advantage of opportunities…you get caught out sometimes, particularly when travelling as you want to cram and juggle everything into a day. How this theme plays out also is that if I’m given the opportunity to present in front of other people, I want to maximise that moment. I believe you are in a position of great opportunity the second you have more than two people in the room.  Life is too short to have your time wasted by boring, irrelevant and un-memorable presentations. When you’re the one in front of that room, don’t waste everyone else's time.And that’s my real driver for doing things differently.

Sport played a role.

I was lucky getting into netball from the age of 10. Through the game, I’ve been given opportunities to speak in front of others at occasions from speaking in team huddles during quarter breaks, to club presentation nights and dinners.In University, I started coaching more junior teams and I believe being a coach had a significant impact on my ability to deliver a message succinctly and projecting my voice - particularly when you have quarter and half time breaks to do that and your audience are 13 to 15 year olds.My first official MC gig was as on-court announcer for the Queensland State League netball finals back in 2003. I called the teams on the court, thanked sponsors, talked through key highlights of the match. Through this, I learned about the importance of time-keeping, how to speak clearly into a microphone, and the realisation that the role of MC is so much more than just the delivery. There is a lot of background work involved in who you need to liaise with, what your backup plans are, etc. Now when you start doing this sort of stuff, the people around you hear about it, and that opened doors as an MC’ing at friend’s weddings.

If you’re ever asked to MC a wedding, please say yes.

For two reasons in particular:

  1. It keeps you off the booze for a few hours so that you can avoid a painful hangover!
  2. The skill to being a wedding MC is about really making it a personal experience. So this experience forces you to tailor your message -for the couple, family and friends. Having that first wedding MC gig again opened up more invites to MC other events.

Can you see from this trail how it all works?

If we’re relate speaking back to running, I believe those school, netball and uni presentations were 5km runs. MC’ing a wedding is a half marathon.And unfortunately, similarly to running, you can’t go cold turkey for 6 months and then expect to run at the same pace you did while training.

So how can you continue to get that speaking experience?

I know a lot of the listeners are split, probably about 50% working in a full-time job and 50% freelance. For those working, there are so many opportunities to put your hand up and deliver presentations from where you stand.While I was working in Marketing for a company called Wicked Campers, we were sponsors of the annual Backpacker travel expo in Melbourne. As part of the sponsorship package, the company was offered an opportunity to run some sessions on travelling around Australia.I put my hand up.In my role working in Government in regional Western Australia, we had a fortnightly Friday morning video hook-up with the other campuses in the region called Communication Corridor. Speaking at Disrupt HR, BrisbaneAs I needed to share internal messages, I put my hand up and asked to be in the agenda, pretty frequently.  I challenged myself to out-do my previous presentations over and over again.When it came to Friday morning, I also felt like whacking myself on the head and questioning myself on volunteering for these sessions and putting myself under undue pressure. It would have been much easier not volunteering and sitting in the crowd every fortnight, But, when we held a Professional Development week for all 200 staff in the region, guess who was asked to MC the event?In late 2016, I was asked to co-facilitate some leadership training in Brisbane. A few months later and I was onboard a flight to Canada to run the same workshop over there.

Time on your feet matters.

Not only does it give you more time to practice your presentation skills and experiment with content, but more importantly, you also get used to that feeling of uncomfortable-ness. You get comfortable with being uncomfortable. It also leads you to good things and great opportunities that you would never have realised. Every time you step up, it’s an opportunity for you to market yourself and build your personal brand. You get luckier. I think the best analogy that sums this up is the one I heard on Episode #49 of the Jordan Harbinger show. In this episode, Jordan chats to Alex Banayan about mentoring. In fact, its so good, I am going to share it for you below:There's no denying that luck plays a role in anyone's success.But it was in conversation with then-Microsoft executive Qi Lu that gave Alex a real understanding of lucks role in success.Qi Lu had grown up in a village outside of Shanghai, China that was so poor to the extent that there was only one teacher per 300 children and people developed deformities from malnutrition. Being very smart and working very hard, Qi was making seven dollars a month by the time he was 27. Like so many other intelligent, hard workers in China, he dreamed of a better life in America — so, he needed an advantage over the competition.As luck would have it, Qi had the opportunity to speak to a Carnegie Mellon professor lecturing at his local university. The professor had been so impressed by the questions he was asking and the papers he had written about the professor's area of expertise that Qi was offered a full scholarship to Carnegie Mellon.How did luck play into it? Under normal circumstances, Qi would have ridden his bicycle to visit his parents on that particular night of the week — but it was raining, so he stayed on campus, attended the lecture, and happened to be the most well-informed scholar in the room on the topic at hand. Thanks to his extra months of productivity, he was prepared when opportunity knocked.To Alex, Qi imparted this nugget of wisdom: Luck is like a bus. If you miss one, there will always be the next one. But if you are not prepared, you won't be able to get on.This encouraged Alex to do a little more digging into the science of luck, and from the research, it seems one thing is clear: luck is a mindset, not a phenomenon.

When I again reflect on that question, how did you get the confidence to speak in front of large groups?

As you can see, it’s an evolution piece underpinned by three things:

  1. Bank that time on your feet.
  2. Put your hand up and find the opportunities.
  3. Every time you have an opportunity to present, challenge yourself to stretch and outperform your previous presentation.

The second piece of advice from my running coach, Pat Carroll was not to be concerned by the fact that your longest training run does not take you near 42.2km. Save yourself for the marathon. Prepare consistently, stay injury free, and your solid preparation combined with race day atmosphere will allow you to go all the way.Nothing will prepare you for that marathon moment in front of hundreds of people with the spotlight on you, but you’ll get pretty close by banking the thousands of kilometres prior, and you can be confident to accept the opportunity, given the success you’ve had in the past.

I'd love to hear how you got your speaking experience.

How will you find that time on your feet? Where are you banking your speaking kilometres? Comment below!

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Episode 26: When you stand in service, you can’t be nervous with Neen James

In today’s episode, I talk to Neen James. Neen is a sought-out, high-energy keynote speaker in the States who challenges her audiences to leverage their focus and pay attention to what matters most at work and in life. Audiences love her practical strategies they can apply personally and professionally, and meeting planners love working with her – they often describe Neen as the energizer bunny for their events. She believes that when you stand in service; you can't be nervous.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In today's episode, I talk to Neen James. Neen is a sought-out, high-energy keynote speaker in the States who challenges her audiences to leverage their focus and pay attention to what matters most at work and in life.

In today’s episode, I talk to Neen James. Neen is a sought-out, high-energy keynote speaker in the States who challenges her audiences to leverage their focus and pay attention to what matters most at work and in life. Audiences love her practical strategies they can apply personally and professionally, and meeting planners love working with her – they often describe Neen as the energizer bunny for their events. She believes that when you stand in service; you can't be nervous.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • How a happy little Aussie wound up killing it on stages in the US

  • The differences between Australian and US audiences

  • Why it’s important to change your focus and stand in service (and how this helps with overcoming nerves)

  • Understanding the importance of the three types of attention and how you can apply that to your facilitation

  • Her speaker role models (and the mad genius they focus on)

  • How the three types of attention drive profitability, productivity and accountability

  • Tips and tricks on how to contextualise your training content and marketing collateral

  • Strategies on how to engage with your audience.

About our guest

Neen James is the author of Folding Time™ and Attention Pays™. In 2017, she was named one of the top 30 Leadership Speakers by Global Guru because of her work with companies like Viacom, Comcast, and Abbot Pharmaceutical, among others. She earned her MBA from Southern Cross University and the Certified Speaking Professional designation from National Speakers Association. She has received numerous awards as a professional speaker, is a partner in the international education company Thought Leaders Global, and is a member of the prestigious League of Heroic Public Speakers. Neen has boundless energy, is quick-witted and always offers powerful strategies for paying attention to what matters so you can get more done and create more significant moments at work and home.

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Quotes of the show:

  • “I want to make sure that every interaction they have, they feel like they are getting the attention that they want and need and deserve.”

  • “When people are making behavioural shifts, that's far more important to me than a standing ovation.”

  • “It's not about you and it's not about them, it's simply about a conversation you're going to create in the room.”

  • “One of the best engagement techniques is to keep it really practical. So as soon as they leave your workshop, they can share with someone else what they learned and they can implement it in their everyday life.”

  • “There’s always the next opportunity, the next level of performance, the next skill to develop, the next way to challenge an audience”

Episode transcript

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Episode 25; Split brain workshop facilitation: How to balance the now with the ‘What’s next?' with Mark McKeon

In today’s episode, I talk to Mark McKeon about the parallels between creating high performance on the footy pitch; and high stake situations in a group workshop facilitation environment.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In today's episode, I talk to Mark McKeon about the parallels between creating high performance on the footy pitch; and high stake situations in a group workshop facilitation environment. Need some inspiration and motivation?

In today’s episode, I talk to Mark McKeon about the parallels between creating high performance on the footy pitch; and high stake situations in a group workshop facilitation environment.

Need some inspiration and motivation? Mark provides that in this episode, along with some extremely practical tips which you can start implementing in your facilitation game.  We talk about the practicalities of workshop room setup, how to balance being in the moment with forecasting ahead to drive your workshop outcomes, maintaining energy levels and the key question he asks from client's to determine workshop outcomes.

Listen in to him when he talks about ways you can structure your day to be more productive using his Go Zone methodology.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • How Mark pivoted from professional footballer, to high performance coach and facilitation/speaking

  • Parallels between playing and coaching in high performing footy matches/game day and preparing for a big workshop/stage

  • His requirements in terms of rooms setup and audiovisual setup (including practical takeaways for keeping your voice in check over a day’s workshop)

  • Why it’s important to be a little selfish during the day to maintain peak performance

  • The key question he asks clients to clarify the outcomes of a workshop (and why this is critical)

  • How to structure your day to get the most sustainable performance (and how we under-estimate the importance of recovery)

  • Why he channelled his inner James Bond to create a memorable message

  • What you need to know about using gimmicks and props in your workshops

About our guest

Mark McKeon is one of Australia’s leading experts on leadership, efficiency, productivity, work life balance and team cohesion. His latest book "Go Zone" reinforces all these factors.

He spent 16 years as the high performance coach at Collingwood, with the team also outsourcing their entire fitness and training function to Mark’s team. He was also Club Runner for more than 250 games, an AFL record, and worked with Victoria’s State of Origin Team on five occasions.

Mark previously played football in the VFL with the Melbourne team, and represented Victoria in the VFA. He presents keynotes and tailored sessions, and along with his team, conducts workshops and conference programs in lifestyle, team building and leadership. Mark consistently rates as, ‘exceedingly funny with a great message’ or ‘best conference speaker’. He spends time with delegates, and can MC or facilitate as well as present keynotes and workshops.

Mark has an insightful and engaging style and his uplifting presentations have been a conference highlight with lasting impacts for many years.

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Quotes of the show:

  • “You don’t have to be a prisoner to the structure you’ve set for your workshop…I’m forever swapping slides around and stopping, accelerating and changing the times, all hopefully to the benefit of the audience”

  • “The best clues are always in the audience”

  • “The best facilitators approach their workshops with an audience-centric mindset’

  • “Start with the end in mind. One of the great dangers is that your outcomes are vague and you don’t know what you’re trying to achieve.

  • “Work on your craft. Look for every opportunity to speak in front of a room”

Video: Mark channelling his inner 007

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Episode 24: How to develop a workshop using a team profiling tool (while keeping it light and fun) with Sean Lavin

In today’s episode, I talk to Sean Lavin about his experience with facilitation and the team profile tool called the ‘Team Management Profile’. Sean is a passionate, optimistic and friendly personality with a strong background in both hotel/services and open-cut coal mining operations.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In today's episode, I talk to Sean Lavin about his experience with facilitation and the team profile tool called the 'Team Management Profile'. Sean is a passionate, optimistic and friendly personality with a strong background in both hotel/services and open-cut coal mining operations.

In today’s episode, I talk to Sean Lavin about his experience with facilitation and the team profile tool called the ‘Team Management Profile’. Sean is a passionate, optimistic and friendly personality with a strong background in both hotel/services and open-cut coal mining operations.

He is firmly focused on growth and learning, whilst simultaneously gaining as much insight and experience throughout the vast Human Resources sector. Sean’s favourite workshop theme is around networking, and giving people the permission to speak to each other. He believes that a great workshop is the one that is focused on interaction, with a sprinkling of humour and fun. 

Listen in to him when I ask him about his experience as a first-time facilitator and how that experience shaped him.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • How to craft a team workshop using the Team Management Profile tool

  • The questions Sean uses to identify learner’s requirements for a workshop

  • Essential skills of a facilitator

  • What he’s changed since starting his facilitation journey

  • How his philosophy saying yes has opened up fantastic opportunities

  • Sean’s recommended opening icebreaker for a workshops

  • Strategies to keep a workshop light and fun.

About our guest

Sean is a professional, enthusiastic and passionate HR Graduate. His background stems from a mix of hotel/services management and open cut coal mining operations. Early in 2017, after obtaining his Master of Management (HR), he transferred internally from the coal face into the graduate program to begin his next professional adventure in the vast realm of human resources and facilitation. He's passionate about his family, consistently delivering high quality work outcomes and striving for personal happiness and fulfilment every day.

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Quotes of the show:

  • “So when it comes to icebreakers, I think you've got all the resources you need in the room and that's just people.”

  • “The best workshops or the best say seminars and things you go to are the ones that are fun and get you laughing or you know thinking about something that's just completely silly and that's the sort of stuff that you take away. So if you can blend a lot of fun and humour with serious content the stuff that you're actually trying to get across to the audience I think it makes for a really good session.”

  • “I think the gold is in the conversation. So as a facilitator, it's about you know really trying to steer the ship as opposed to making sure it gets to its destination as fast as possible.”

  • “If the opportunity comes up or someone asks you if you want to do something, just say Yes!”

Episode transcript

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Episode 22: What clients really want from a workshop (and no, it’s not information) with Sean D’Souza

In today’s episode, I talk to Sean D’Souza. Sean is a cartoonist, author, online marketing strategist, a pretty good cook (judging from his social media photos) and an energetic facilitator who applies his skills in creating a different kind of workshop. He reads on average 100 books a year. Teaching runs in his blood, as his father, mother and grandmother were teachers too. He's that good, I flew to Singapore to attend one of his three-day workshops.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In today's episode, I talk to Sean D'Souza. Sean is a cartoonist, author, online marketing strategist, a pretty good cook (judging from his social media photos) and an energetic facilitator who applies his skills in creating a different kind of workshop.

In today’s episode, I talk to Sean D’Souza. Sean is a cartoonist, author, online marketing strategist, a pretty good cook (judging from his social media photos) and an energetic facilitator who applies his skills in creating a different kind of workshop.  He reads on average 100 books a year. Teaching runs in his blood, as his father, mother and grandmother were teachers too.  He's that good, I flew to Singapore to attend one of his three-day workshops.

In this episode, we talk about the motivation of the people coming to your workshops… are they really there for the information, or are they there for another reason? We explore workshop design and giving your participants time to reflect on content.  We also discuss creating a safe workshop environment - not only for the people in the room, but for you as well…because, as the facilitator - it’s important that you feel safe, too.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • Sean’s ratio for instructing vs group discussions and activities

  • The power of frequent breaks

  • Why it’s important to create a safe space for your participants

  • Why he shares his learning materials prior to a workshop

  • What clients really want out of a workshop (and it’s not information)

  • A winning formula that features energy, confidence and skill

  • The importance of feedbacks and testimonials in a workshop.

  • Tips for facilitators starting their journey in facilitating and leading workshops in their own context.

About our guest

Sean D’ Souza is a cartoonist and an online marketing strategist who runs a zany online marketing site named PsychoTactics. He is also the author of “The Brain Audit” which is about how customers make decisions.

Originally working as a freelance cartoonist, Sean somehow found himself indulging his talent for marketing and understanding consumer psychology by helping out others with their marketing efforts. It wasn’t long before he started writing about his own experiences with marketing and slowly but surely, he began to gather an audience hungry to learn more. 

Resources mentioned in this episode:

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Quotes of the show:

  • “What you have to really work on when you're teaching people is you have to get their confidence up, because when you get their confidence up, they use less energy.”

  • “You have to understand what causes people to be motivated in the first place and it's not your stupid bullet points; it’s not your content.”

  • What clients really want in a workshop and that is they want to leave the room and you say, “That's not possible!” Well, do this the next time you're having a workshop tell them, “Look, all of you are here for the information, right? And they'll all say “Yes!” and you go “Okay, so we're going to do this workshop until 9:00 p.m. tonight.” and then watch their faces.

  • “You have to be comfortable that you're going to goof up 50 to 60 percent of your early days before you start getting comfortable But breaking it up is always good because once you're confident, then you don't have to overcompensate. You don't have to be, ‘“I’m the boss here and you're just minions.’”

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Episode 17: The 45 year group facilitation experiment (and how I'm still learning) with Bob Dick

Bob Dick is a change agent and facilitator who has been in the business 45 years. He believes that teachers don't teach, learners learn. In this episode we talk about the difference in process and content, the power of action learning, and how he helps his groups transfer learnings from a workshop, back into the real world.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. Bob Dick is a change agent and facilitator who has been in the business 45 years. He believes that teachers don't teach, learners learn.

Bob Dick is a change agent and facilitator who has been in the business 45 years. He believes that teachers don't teach, learners learn. In this episode we talk about the difference in process and content, the power of action learning, and how he helps his groups transfer learnings from a workshop, back into the real world.

Bob also shares his thoughts on how we can teach leaders the facilitation skills that are rapidly becoming a vital skill.  The most inspiring part? After being in the game for 45 years he still experiments with his facilitation style and approaches. 

What you'll learn in this episode

  • The difference between content and process and how you can effectively manage a group by looking at the process

  • How strategically arranging furniture can change your participants' perceptions of the learning environment

  • Why teachers don't teach, learners learn

  • Strategies to keep learning and improving as a facilitator

  • Why Bob doesn't use technology in his workshops

  • How to deal with conflict within a group

  • Dealing with your nerves before a workshop

  • The importance of vulnerability and authenticity

  • How to turn commitment into action once the workshop is over

About our guest

Bob Dick independent scholar, an educator, facilitator, coach, and change consultant. He has 45 years experience and started an Industrial Psychology for the Department of Labour. He helps people to change their work, learning and life.

Resources mentioned in this episode

Action Research and Action Learning for community and organisational change

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Quote of the episode

Bob describes his safety net: "If the process isn’t working, I will drop the content and engage with the participants about why the process isn't working.  I'll invite them to join me in figuring out what process will work better for all of us".

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Episode 16: How to strengthen your facilitation by connecting, teaching and landing with Adam Mustoe

In this episode, we hear from Adam Mustoe – a Gallup certified Strengths Coach and second-generation pastor. He uses an assessment tool called CliftonStrengths to help people find the intersection of their unique talents and rewarding work.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In this episode, we hear from Adam Mustoe - a Gallup certified Strengths Coach and second-generation pastor. He uses an assessment tool called CliftonStrengths to help people find the intersection of their unique talents and rewarding work.

In this episode, we hear from Adam Mustoe – a Gallup certified Strengths Coach and second-generation pastor.  He uses an assessment tool called CliftonStrengths to help people find the intersection of their unique talents and rewarding work.

The CliftonStrengths assessment is based on 40 years of research by the Gallup corporation where it reveals 34 potential strengths- our natural ways of thinking, feeling, and behaving. 

Adam shares his story on how he found his strengths in 2009, how it changed his life, and how he is changing the lives of others – one workshop at a time.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • How to bring out the element of “surprise” in your workshop delivery

  • How Adam developed his storytelling skills

  • Story of how he found his “Strengths” in 2009 and how this changed his life

  • His experience on some challenging workshops he facilitated and some practical advice for first time facilitators

  • The 50 mile rule and how, as a facilitator, you can use this to your advantage

  • What prompted Adam to get the Clifton Strengths accreditation

  • Adam shares his top 5 strengths and how it helped him in his career

  • How to use your strengths outside of the corporate world.

Resources mentioned:

Connect with Adam

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Episode 15: Facilitating and leading with your head and heart with Therese Lardner

In this First Time Facilitator episode, you’ll hear from Therese Lardner, a psychologist, leadership coach, speaker and workshop facilitator. She shares how being thrown into the deep end helped build her confidence in public speaking, and why your choice of words matter as a facilitator.

Listen to this episode from First Time Facilitator on Spotify. In this First Time Facilitator episode, you'll hear from Therese Lardner, a psychologist, leadership coach, speaker and workshop facilitator. She shares how being thrown into the deep end helped build her confidence in public speaking, and why your choice of words matter as a facilitator.

In this First Time Facilitator episode, you’ll hear from Therese Lardner, a psychologist, leadership coach, speaker and workshop facilitator. She shares how being thrown into the deep end helped build her confidence in public speaking, and why your choice of words matter as a facilitator.This is why Therese dedicates her career to teaching people how to use their vocabulary more effectively. 

We also talk about employee engagement and creating strong work cultures; and discover what organisations need to consider to improve the employee experience.

About our guest

Therese is a leadership and engagement coach, workshop facilitator, speaker, executive coach and psychologist with a simple, no-nonsense approach to building leaders and businesses. Her natural way of engaging with people means that she is just as comfortable in the boardroom as she is on the factory floor. For Therese, connection at work is the key to success, developed through personal insight, alignment with company culture and cohesive teams.

What you’ll learn

  • How she adjusted her academic language to connect with diverse audiences

  • Some advice she was given that took the weight off her shoulders when she was a first time facilitator

  • Why it’s important to develop your vocabulary (and your emotions) as a leader and how you can do that

  • How she landed a speaking gig at a positive psychology conference in New York City

Resources

Desperately Seeking Emotional Vocabulary | Therese Lardner | DisruptHR Talks from DisruptHR on Vimeo.

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